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Re: Digest Number 163
Created By~John Barker
Created DateWed, Sep 01, 1999
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~John BarkerSubjectRe: Digest Number 163
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Well alrighty then!

I have said all along that River deserves a star on the Walk of Fame. After
all, if Lassie can have one, why not River?

Peace, Love & Bulletproof Marshmallows!

John

"Remember me, I'll be with you in your dreams." Hanson

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To: acrosstheway@o... <acrosstheway@o...>
Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 3:46 AM
Subject: [acrosstheway] Digest Number 163


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>There are 8 messages in this issue.
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>Topics in today's digest:
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> 1. Re: Belonging Together
> From: thecolonel@w... (Barry C. Lawrence)
> 2. Re: Belonging Together
> From: ALEKA5@a...
> 3. Re: Belonging Together
> From: Socool2894@a...
> 4. Hollywood walk of Fame
> From: thecolonel@w... (Barry C. Lawrence)
> 5. Re: Belonging Together
> From: ALEKA5@a...
> 6. Re: Belonging Together
> From: Socool2894@a...
> 7. Re: Belonging Together
> From: thecolonel@w... (Barry C. Lawrence)
> 8. Re: Belonging Together
> From: Socool2894@a...
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>Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:32:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: thecolonel@w... (Barry C. Lawrence)
>Subject: Re: Belonging Together
>
>To Edward, I`m so glad you wrote &amp; voiced your opinion. You are right
>on, with how things have to work. and I`m glad so many others agree with
>you.
>
>I`ll arrange the Star &amp; finances, you handle the fellow fans OK.
>
>Last time it grew so tiring, all the belly aching, about.; "If River
>would want a star, or not"... "I`d rather have a rain forest".. I don't
>want any memorial".. I think PETA should get the money"..." "what will
>his family say/think?"
>
>In the mean time nothing gets done (of any kind.)
>
>It boils down to this , we know not everyone is going to be happy w/ a
>star on The Walk of fame, but this is what some of us would like &amp; want
>to do.
>
>The others can do what they want or don`t want( I will do many things
>myself, there are lots of good things to do) but we are going to try an
>get a star for River. If anyone wants to help great , if you don't want
>to participate fine but don`t complain about it.
>
>Now as I promised socool &amp; many others I will in about an hour send you
>all my report about my visit to the Hollywood chamber of commerce.
>
>Again, GREAT letter and points you made Edward.
>
>Sincerely, BARRY
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>Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:13:10 EDT
> From: ALEKA5@a...
>Subject: Re: Belonging Together
>
>In a message dated 8/31/99 2:33:05 PM Central Daylight Time,
>thecolonel@w... writes:
>
><< If anyone wants to help great , if you don't want
> to participate fine but don`t complain about it.
> >>
>
>
>I have every right to express my opinion as does everybody else. What I
feel
>you are saying is if you don't agree with me then I don't want to hear it.
>Somebody on this list stated "I don't care what River would have wanted".
>Well, what a lovely way to honor him, yet nobody said anything about it.
>Somebody else said that they were going to get drunk and high in honor of
>River on his birthday. Again, what an honor, but nobody said anything. Th
en
>when myself and another person express concerns about the star idea and
>suggest giving it to charity, we're told not to complain. Give me a break.
> Michele
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>Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:20:28 EDT
> From: Socool2894@a...
>Subject: Re: Belonging Together
>
>hi michelle,
> I could understand you reseaon to complain, but listen to this. These
>question keep coming and coming up, how the heck are we suppose to know
what
>riv wanted, what if we give the money to the wrong charity blah blah blah
all
>these questions and no answers that how things dont get done around here,
and
>you could give your share of the money to the charity, while we give ours
to
>the star. THAT IS THE SIMPLIST SOLUTION> if you dont like the star idea
then
>just give your own money to the chairity, an dwe will give ours to the
star.
>tash
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>Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:49:11 -0700 (PDT)
> From: thecolonel@w... (Barry C. Lawrence)
>Subject: Hollywood walk of Fame
>
>
>Hello everyone!
>As you know last week I was in Hollywood. I went there to have dinner
>with William Richert, specifically to celebrate River`s 29th birthday.
>It was a very emotional for us but, VERY great and satisfying, all at
>the same time! We especially noted how Riv was so good at getting people
>together, and how he hated arguments, and bickering between people.
>
>On tues. I went to Hollywood to the Hollywood Chamber of commece office
>in the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel, on(you guessed it) Hollywood
>Blvd.Whew.
>
> I guess you know that Hollywood is actually part of the city of Los
>Angles and not a separate city, except for West Hollywood, which is its
>own city.(the viper room is located there).
>
>While at the Chamber office, I had the chance to spend about 30 min.
>asking all kinds of questions about the walk of fame.
>
>In a nutshell, it is going to take along time to get a star for River,if
>we get one at all. And it will also take , right now,$10,000. (4 yrs.
>ago it was only $3,500. Last yr. $7,500).
>
>O,kay. Only 10-12 people are selected per year to receive a star. AND
>only one posthumous award is given per yr. This is the part that makes
>it tough for River to ever get a one.
>
>This years posthumous award went to Phil Silvers. I was very surprised
>to learn that he did not already have a star. With competition like Mr.
>Silvers, it will take at least 5 yrs or more.
>
>Each artist must be nominated , by an individual or fan club who will
>then be responsible for paying for &amp; arranging the placement of the
>Star.
>the nominations take place each June. the deadline is the end of May .
>If not chosen, a person must be re nominated each year to be considered
>again.
>
>The person chosen is selected by a committee, made up of industry &amp;
>chamber members. I`m told the committee is not political, but I have my
>doubts on that statement.
>
>the qualifications are:
>1) Prof. achievement in the field of entertainment.
>
>2)Longevity of 5 yrs. or more.
>
>3) Contribution to the community.
>
>4) Posthumous award the person must have been gone at least 5 yrs.
>
>Rio meets the qualifications, and as I mentioned ,has been nominated the
>past 3 yrs.
>
>I have a current list of all the stars awarded. Remember too this is not
>just film stars but the whole industry. Recording, TV, directors, makeup
>artists, etc...
>
>What I propose to do is this:
>1)set up an interest bearing trust acct. at a Bank, where anyone may
>send their contributions. that way you will know that your donation will
>safe, and that it will do what you want it to do.
>
>2) That the money be designated for a 5 yr. period of time. Renewable at
>the end of the 5 yrs.
> Which means, you will send in your donation, it may stay in the acct.
>up to 5 yrs. til a star is issued. If at the end of 5 yrs.he has not
>been chosen to receive a star, you may opt. to get your money back with
>interest (less expenses, if any). OR you could say; keep the money for 1
>more year , or 2 or 3 more etc.
>
>3) That each person designate their money to go for a Star, BUT if no
>star is awarded,after 5 yrs. instead of being given back, that the money
>be designated to be used for some other kind of memorial.
>
>All subject to the applicable laws of Calif.
>
>Enough of you have said you want to do this., and have agreed to help
>find donors. What I need now is for at least 10 of you to write me thru
>the list or privately. that you in fact want me to set up an acct. and
>that you will in fact contribute a goodly amt. of money. And yes any and
>all donations, no matter how small will be graciously accepted. We want
>EVERYONE to feel like they helped to acquire this Star for River.
>
>I will send reports to those who donated, and keep this list up dated as
>to the progress over the next 5 yrs.
>
>Please respond, It will be exciting!
>
>Sincerely, BARRY
>
>
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>Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:35:01 EDT
> From: ALEKA5@a...
>Subject: Re: Belonging Together
>
>
>#1) I'm not complaining, I'm expressing an opinion. (That wasn't meant as
a
>slam against you Tash, so please don't take it that way)
>#2) We do know what charities he supported because when he died, his mother
>asked that people give money to them to honor him instead of sending
flowers
>and other things.
>#3) If River had been of the opinion that "arguing" or speaking up against
>the majority was wrong, he, along with a lot of us, would never have become
a
>vegan or supported the other issues he supported. It's people like River,
>who have the guts to express their opinion in the face of opposition of the
>majority, that can and have accomplished great things.
>#4) People expressing different opinions could be seen as discussing an
>issue, as opposed to bickering. It's all personal perception.
> Michele
>
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>Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:25:33 EDT
> From: Socool2894@a...
>Subject: Re: Belonging Together
>
>Hi,
> Yes i know you are expressing opionions, that is why I came up with a
simple
>solution: If you dont think the star idea is a good idea like: river
wouldnt
>have wanted it...... waht about his family...... it could go to a good
cause,
>like a charity..... or a statue..... then here is the solution- If you want
>to donate to the "star" Idea the you can do so, if you want to donate to a
>charity, or a statue, you can set up your own fund, and figure out what to
>do, and pick a representive, that way there is a comprimise, and you do
with
>you money and your ideas what you please, and the others to the "star"
idea.
>Is that a simple solution?
>Tash
>
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>Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:08:07 -0700 (PDT)
> From: thecolonel@w... (Barry C. Lawrence)
>Subject: Re: Belonging Together
>
>Tash is correct.
>
>Sincerely, BARRY
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>Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:37:31 EDT
> From: Socool2894@a...
>Subject: Re: Belonging Together
>
>thanxs barry
>
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