Across The Way Thread #22407
Question for Barry about his book
Created ByAnna M
Created DateWed, Jun 04, 2008
Created Time10:39PM GMT

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Anna M6/4/2008 10:39:52 PM
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karolingassnerSubjectRe: Question for Barry about his book
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hi again,


ah a desaster. the first time ever i wrote on a board and i completley make a desaster out of it, sorry.

barry: i replied to you twice because i thought the first one wouldnt come up (it took the message over a day to appear). so the second time i replied i've read parts of your book again and so its a bit different although i tried to remember what i wrote the first time. ah confusing. anyway sorry.

hel:
you wrote :I think it's wrong to judge his family for not talking about him in the media. Think about what they have had to go through. Take Joaquin for example. Would you feel like opening up to the same people who published a picture of your brother in a coffin, or who published the call you made to 911 when your brother was dying?

--> here is why im asking myself: why would joaquin go back there? why would his family let him go, although they could see how it destroyed river (next to other things)
he made it quite clear that he hates it, so why go back there? if he couldnt live without acting, there are loads of other ways...unless financial reason and this is what gets me with his family. it seems like arlyn is only interested in money. of course they had their messiahmessage to deliever and stuff, but it was also about the money.
and this doesnt fit for me. they raised there kids quite unusual (and sometimes just wrong --> COG) and then bring them to hollywood...i just dont get this.
the kids, esp. river, werent prepared for this and most of this destroyed him. and his family could watch him while doing it.
i thought they learned something out of it, but no, they through joaquin into this thing (with thing i mean hollywood.

i can understand the family not talking about river in a way. i guess i wouldnt do too. i guess they kinda got it, what they did to river and how wrong it all went, that they wanna pay "tribute" with this or something like that (do you know what i mean??).
the other thing is, that river once said he wants to be remembered and honestly he did a lot of good things to be remembered. because he died that way and because it was all so mysterious, people are not remembering him the way he deserved.
and i guess because of that i would open up if i were them: i would write a book about river, so noone could quote me wrong, make something up or cut something important out and just tell rivers story. every true thing, although it could mean that his mother or father, family or friends wouldnt get away that good.
and with the money i get from the book, i would do something good with it...something river would do with it.

you wrote that you cant help someone if he doesnt want it. this is so true and i guess this is what happened with river.
somehow, i dont know why, i get this feeling that he thought he doesnt deserve to be okay, to expect help from others (well his whole life it seems he had to "funktionate"). i can only tell you, what i would do. i would drag him out of there. i would get him help and even if i have to force him to make a therapy...just that he wouldnt die (i mean here river or any other person that was in a situation like him and died because he didnt want help).


okay, sorry, i rambled on quite a lot.
thanks for listening!

x
karolin


PS i've written this one a few days ago, but it hasnt appeared so i post this again. if it appears twice now i apologise.
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BARRYSubjectRe: Question for Barry about his book
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LYNDA you wrote:
1. I don't have a publishing agent, nor do I have the
finacial means to obtain one either. Not only that,
but I have not a clue on how to even get one.

YOU DONT NEED MONEY TO GET AN AGENT JUST A MANUSCRIPT. GO ON LINE TYPE IN "LITERARY, OR BOOK AGENTS" AND MANY, MANY WILL COME UP , CHECK THEM ALL OUT.

2. There are a few pictures from magazines and from the
internet that I have put in my book. They are
imparitive to my writting. I understand that if I do
so without proper consent, I could be landing myself
into a copyrite lawsuit.

YES, YOU NEED TO GET PERMISSION OF THE PERSON, IN THE PHOTO, THE PHOTOGRAPHER OR THEIR AGENT, OR A FAMILY MEMBER IF THE PERSON IS DECEASED.
THERE are PHOTO AGENTS WHO HANDLE CELEB PICTURES YOU CAN CONTACT. SOME CHARGE, SOME CHARGE TOO MUCH, AND SOME WILL LET YOU HAVE IT FOR FREE.

3. I need to somehow get in touch personally with the
Phoenix family. There are some personal memories and
photos that I have of River. In all due respect to
the family I strongly feel that they should obtain to
these first before they were to become public.

MOST LIKELY THEY WONT EVEN TALK TO YOU. YOU MAY TRY GOING THRU A FRIEND WHO KNOWS THEM LET THEM SEE WHAT YOU HAVE.LET THE FRIEND GIVE THEM THE THINGS OR JUST MAIL IT TO THEM, THOUGH YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IF THEY OPEN YOUR LETTER OR NOT.
IF YOU HAVE PHOTOS THAT YOU TOOK OR RIVER GAVE TO YOU THEN THOSE ARE YOURS TO DO WHAT YOU WANT.


If you have any insites, or suggestions so I'm heading in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated.

FIRST YOU NEED TO WRITE YOUR MANUSCRIPT AND SELF EDIT IT SEVERAL TIMES.
THEN YOU NEED TO HAVE IT PROFESSIONALLY EDITED. ( GO TO THE WEB) AND MAYBE MORE THAN ONCE.
THEN, FIND AN AGENT OR PUBLISHER OR SELF PUBLISH. I FOUND A PUBLISHER, BUT THERE IS A GREAT COMPANY IN CANADA CALLED TRAFFORD (TRAFFORD.COM) WHO WILL NOT ONLY HELP YOU EDIT THE BOOK BUT HAVE COMPLETE SERVICES FROM FINDING SOMEONE TO DO YOUR COVER TO PUBLISHING IT ON DEMAND FOR YOU. AND THEIR RATES ARE VERY REASONABLE. CHECK THEM OUT.

From personal experience and talking with many other authors I found out that in most cases you end up hating your publisher, so you might find self publishing the route to go.

Hope all this helps you LYNDA.
Sincerely,

BARRY
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BARRYSubjectRe: Question for Barry about his book
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LYNDA you wrote:
1. I don't have a publishing agent, nor do I have the
finacial means to obtain one either. Not only that,
but I have not a clue on how to even get one.

YOU DONT NEED MONEY TO GET AN AGENT JUST A MANUSCRIPT. GO ON LINE TYPE IN "LITERARY, OR BOOK AGENTS" AND MANY, MANY WILL COME UP , CHECK THEM ALL OUT.

2. There are a few pictures from magazines and from the
internet that I have put in my book. They are
imparitive to my writting. I understand that if I do
so without proper consent, I could be landing myself
into a copyrite lawsuit.

YES, YOU NEED TO GET PERMISSION OF THE PERSON, IN THE PHOTO, THE PHOTOGRAPHER OR THEIR AGENT, OR A FAMILY MEMBER IF THE PERSON IS DECEASED.
THERE are PHOTO AGENTS WHO HANDLE CELEB PICTURES YOU CAN CONTACT. SOME CHARGE, SOME CHARGE TOO MUCH, AND SOME WILL LET YOU HAVE IT FOR FREE.

3. I need to somehow get in touch personally with the
Phoenix family. There are some personal memories and
photos that I have of River. In all due respect to
the family I strongly feel that they should obtain to
these first before they were to become public.

MOST LIKELY THEY WONT EVEN TALK TO YOU. YOU MAY TRY GOING THRU A FRIEND WHO KNOWS THEM LET THEM SEE WHAT YOU HAVE.LET THE FRIEND GIVE THEM THE THINGS OR JUST MAIL IT TO THEM, THOUGH YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IF THEY OPEN YOUR LETTER OR NOT.
IF YOU HAVE PHOTOS THAT YOU TOOK OR RIVER GAVE TO YOU THEN THOSE ARE YOURS TO DO WHAT YOU WANT.


If you have any insites, or suggestions so I'm heading in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated.

FIRST YOU NEED TO WRITE YOUR MANUSCRIPT AND SELF EDIT IT SEVERAL TIMES.
THEN YOU NEED TO HAVE IT PROFESSIONALLY EDITED. ( GO TO THE WEB) AND MAYBE MORE THAN ONCE.
THEN, FIND AN AGENT OR PUBLISHER OR SELF PUBLISH. I FOUND A PUBLISHER, BUT THERE IS A GREAT COMPANY IN CANADA CALLED TRAFFORD (TRAFFORD.COM) WHO WILL NOT ONLY HELP YOU EDIT THE BOOK BUT HAVE COMPLETE SERVICES FROM FINDING SOMEONE TO DO YOUR COVER TO PUBLISHING IT ON DEMAND FOR YOU. AND THEIR RATES ARE VERY REASONABLE. CHECK THEM OUT.

From personal experience and talking with many other authors I found out that in most cases you end up hating your publisher, so you might find self publishing the route to go.

Hope all this helps you LYNDA.
Sincerely,

BARRY
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