Across The Way Thread #22642
Why no arrests?
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Created DateFri, Sep 11, 2009
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thePidgeSubjectWhy no arrests?
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Something I've always wondered about.
Hope this doesn't start a big flame war, but why wasn't the person who gave River the drugs in the bathroom arrested?
Was it because he gave them to him as opposed to selling them?

Years ago, I read the story about it being up to his father, which made absolutely no sense to me. Here, it's up to the police, not civilians, to press charges involving narcotics.
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rekSubjectRe: Why no arrests?
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Hey there,

The police weren't present at the time of his death, and I'm guessing none of the actual witnesses wanted to come forward. In many ways, they were just as guilty. They saw what happened and did nothing about it. Then, when River collapsed they still did nothing.

My guess is that they were used to the drugs around them; that they didn't realize just how dangerous it was. They were young, and young people tend to think they're immortal. I have said it before and I will say it again: The drugs were the real enemy. The guy who gave the drugs to River? He made a bad decision, when he decided to share some drugs with his friend, but River also made a bad decision when he decided to share some drugs with his friend. Once again - they were young and vulnerable. Unfortunately one of them died. Had it been John, maybe River would be in the same situation as John is in today. Blamed for his death. Who knows?

All I know is I don't blame him for River's death. River was young, but he was also a grown up. It was his choice. Of course, what John did was illegal, and lawfully speaking (is that even a word? hah,) he should have been sentenced to jail. But I don't really have a problem with the fact that he didn't go to jail, because I figure there must have been a reason the family didn't press charges. Maybe they realized that what River had done was actually illegal as well? Or maybe it was a complete different reason.

We don't really know. It's all guessing.
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Sweet_RiverSubjectRe: Why no arrests?
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I can see from Hel's point of view.. But I also feel as if someone should have been 'punished'. I honestly don't think River knew the potency of what he was taking. It's like asking for a regular dose of tylenol, but being given regular X 20. I've read other ppl suggesting that Riv was doing drugs all night, that he didn't take the "8X's the lethal dose all at once". I HIGHLY doubt this theory.

I mean, take MJ's doctor. His family seems to be pursuing a lawsuit. The doc gave MJ the drugs and MJ willfully took it, but it doesn't mean the doc should get away with it either.

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rekSubjectRe: Why no arrests?
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In Michael Jackson's case the family wants someone to be punished. In River's case, no one felt it was necessary to press charges. Why exactly we don't know, but I do think that what I wrote could have had something to do with it.

Let's face it - River was not sick the same way Michael Jackson was. He did not have physical pains, and therefore he wasn't all drugged up the whole time. So these are two different situations. River had been clean for two months, and should have been able to pass if he really wanted to. But he didn't, and aside from the addiction part, it was probably also because he didn't understand the danger in it.

Maybe John should have known that River didn't realize that he could actually die from it, but John was in bad shape himself. He spoke out about their connection on several occasions, and I can't help but think that maybe he thought their connection meant that they grasped/took/thought the same things at all times. I'm pretty sure John wasn't thinking that there was a huge chance that his 'soulmate' could die from the stuff he had shared with him. But there was, and that's why I'm saying that lawfully speaking he should have been punished. And if it had happened the other way around (River sharing, John dying, River surviving) River should have been punished. But I honestly think the friends took all things into consideration. It was a mistake, and it could have happened to anyone of them - because a lot of them were doing drugs.

One other thing is that the family and friends who were present that night probably felt guilty for not stepping in and saying no. River and John's sharing did not happen in a closed space; people knew what they were doing. So it's just really complicated.

But yes, lawfully speaking he should have been punished. I'm just not surprised or upset that he wasn't.
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thePidgeSubjectRe: Why no arrests?
PostedSun, Sep 13, 2009 12:44AM GMTMethodWeb-Site
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We know his name was John?

I'm behind in info...
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