Across The Way Thread #22849
'I'm Still Here' paints a sad picture of Joaquin Phoenix
Created ByBARRY
Created DateSat, Sep 11, 2010
Created Time03:14PM GMT

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BARRY9/11/2010 3:14:24 PM
rek9/12/2010 2:35:43 AM
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BARRYSubject'I'm Still Here' paints a sad picture of Joaquin Phoenix
PostedSat, Sep 11, 2010 03:14PM GMTMethodWeb-Site
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rekSubjectRe: 'I'm Still Here' paints a sad picture of Joaquin Phoenix
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Thanks for sharing Barry.

It's probably the worst review I have ever read, but it sure did give me a laugh. The things written in it basically show what "I'm Still Here" is partly about: How messed up the media is and how much power they have (check the comments, the majority believes Joaquin is addicted and/or mentally ill.)

I honestly can't believe that the media is still buying it. Yes, Joaquin says it isn't a mockumentary, but if he went out and said it was all a joke the point of the whole thing would go out the window.

I like this review:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/sep/06/still-here-film-review

On a last note: "This is Spinal Tap" is one of Rain, Joaquin and River's favorite movies. A hilarious mockumentary. Rain even has a screencap from the movie as her myspace profile picture.
From what I've seen and heard so far I'm thinking "I'm Still Here" is a modern Spinal Tap, but with a psychological (and very important) touch to it.

Can't wait to see it. And good to see Joaquin back to his old self, although I do kind of miss that beard.
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Veronica HeartSubjectRe: 'I'm Still Here' paints a sad picture of Joaquin Phoenix
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The way I see Joaquin?s recent actions is a way to turn the public eye back on itself. In most of Joaquin?s interviews and quotes he creates this tension and animosity between him and the media: he hates the fact that so many people focus on him and his life and nothing is kept private.
This past year Casey Affleck has been seen following Joaquin and filming him and his public ?meltdowns? and now we know that this was all filmed for his movie ?I?m Still Here?. And what seems to be happening is Joaquin is doing what he does best: he is playing a role. He is taking this character named ?Joaquin Phoenix? ? this celebrity the media feels they have all figured out: this guy who is spiraling because of his uncanny upbringing and the loss of his beloved brother ? and is making a fool of us all. We talk and gush about these celebrities and we squeal when we hear their names, and we talk about their lives stories as if we know them personally, but we don?t. We don?t know them, and we don?t know Joaquin. And this is what he seems to be doing, taking the person the world perceives him to be and playing with it. It?s not really a message; it?s really more like a slap in the face.
What is funny to me, though, is that even as I am saying all of these things, I am doing exactly what I believe Joaquin is exploiting which is the world?s slanted view and perceptions of celebrities. I?m analyzing this man I don?t even know. To me, the world is just one big High School, and the celebrities are the ?Popular? ones. Whether that be the ?hotties? (Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie), the ?artsy? ones (Johnney Depp), the ?bad? ones (Lindsey Lohan) and so on (popular doesn?t just stop at the likable, pretty ones, it goes for anyone whose name is known, whether it?s good or bad). Now, speaking for myself (I am in 11th grade), I don?t go up to Jake George or Dylana Hunter at my High School and start taking photos of them and freaking out whenever they walk into the room. But there is something about these people who are in movies and have a household name that everyone knows, there is something about them that makes us giddy with excitement and so green with jealousy that we will pick them apart so horribly that it would bring them to tears if they heard us.
Again, it?s funny, because I can say all of these things, but I would be the world?s BIGGEST effing liar if I said I wouldn?t pee myself if Joaquin Phoenix came to my town. I am a fan girl, more than that I am a hypocritical fan girl who seems to be the epitome of what Joaquin Phoenix loathes and is choosing to mock.
God, I guess I hope I never do meet him ?. =]

~Veronica~
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opera_classicalSubjectRe: 'I'm Still Here' paints a sad picture of Joaquin Phoenix
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Have any of you actually seen this yet? I finally saw it for the first time last week. Call me crazy, but I thought it was brilliant. So I know it is supposed to be this big hoax, and fake, but a part of me cannot help but think part of it is real. I do mean some of the feelings he expressed during the film - about the stupid media, and abou how he felt about himself in that point of life.

Even though I was watching it, knowing about the hoax factor, I could not help but feel this undying empathy for him. Watch it people -
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EllenSubjectRe: 'I'm Still Here' paints a sad picture of Joaquin Phoenix
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I have seen "I'm Still Here" and while I found it very difficult to watch (as it's definitely NOT my kind of film), I find it hard to believe that there are still movie critics out there that actually think they are watching the real Joaquin. To me it's quite obvious that Joaquin is acting, but maybe since I always thought it was a hoax, I had too many preconceptions going into the film to believe otherwise. Reading some of these reviews though, makes me wonder if any of these critics has seen any of the multitude of interviews that Joaquin has given over his career, where he has always come across as being quite polite and not at all the obnoxious vulgar man in the film. People do change due to life's circumstances, drugs, alcohol, etc. but not THAT much and not practically overnight.
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